The Mindful Dietitian with Jessica Campbell

July 20, 2018

Jessica Campbell on showing up, doing the work and the issues around "niceness"


Here Jess shares:

    • Her experience and the challenges as a medical student, bringing with her a background in HAES/non-diet nutrition and time spent interacting and being with clients.
    • About the ‘Alternative Category’ – diversifying the allied health field and attracting questioners and curious students (way to go OTAGO!).
    • The importance of being curious and asking the core, but uncomfortable, questions both internally and externally to encourage the integration of social justice into allied health, nutrition and dietetics.
    • Showing up and wanting to learn versus showing up and wanting to do the personal work.
    • Why it’s crucial that we as health professionals examine, acknowledge and accept our privilege with honesty and how these privileges influence our bias.
    • ‘Doing the work’ – what does/could this mean for you?
    • ‘As helping professionals, we are educated to leave ourselves at the door’; how sitting with the ‘uncomfortable’, allowing emotions and validating can facilitate true healing.
    • The shame response; ‘it’s not our privilege parameter that we should feel any shame and guilt about, it’s our inability to recognise it, and then once recognised, failing to act or allowing its enactment’
    • The ‘but I’ve worked hard’ response; failing to recognise that privilege and oppression dictates/impacts access.
  • What is ‘tone-policing’, how it impacts and how we can respond.
  • The harmful expert badge - ‘A whole other podcast’ – ah yes please!!


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About Jess:

Jessica Campbell BSc PgDip, is a Non-Diet Nutritionist & Medical Student passionate about weight inclusive healthcare practices, eating disorder prevention & therapies.

Jess is a New Zealand based non-diet nutritionist at Body Balance Nutrition, a group practice providing food and body positive nutrition and dietetic care and eating disorder recovery services in person and online New Zealand wide.

Jess is active in the HAES New Zealand working group and co-facilitates, with her fab colleague Sarah Peck NZRD, the NZ Diet Free Nutrition and Health Professionals online network.



The Mindful Dietitian with Haley Goodrich

July 5, 2018

Haley Goodrich on ethical entrepeneurship, building a HAES-centered business, and facing your fears.....


Here Haley shares:

  • Her path from graduating to becoming an entrepreneur in the dietetic space.
  • Dietitians and private practice; why it is not generally the ‘recommended’ or ‘ideal’ trajectory for dietetic students and the layers that contribute to this.
  • The entrepreneurial world; braving the wilderness, being vulnerable and taking risks.
  • The hope for future dietetic students; “We need to breakdown the normalising of limiting beliefs – more mind work!”.
  • The skills and understandings that can help you build a HAES centred business.
  • Straddling the fence? The common fears of jumping fully in and by doing so, how it can contribute to success.
  • The importance of a clear, consistent and personally aligned message and a helpful activity that can get you started!
  • ‘Speaking up and out’; sharing your authentic voice and story and the spaces available in this paradigm for growth and development.
  • The need for reflection and ‘pause’; how she approaches it.
  • More about her business coaching; how she got started and the support it provides for those wanting to start a private practice.  


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Haley Goodrich is a Pittsburgh-based Dietitian and Nutrition Therapist, and the owner of INSPIRD Nutrition. She is fiercely passionate about helping others cultivate a joyful, peaceful relationship with their bodies and empowering dietitian entrepreneurs to achieve their professional goals. Haley specializes in Intuitive Eating, body image healing, and eating disorder recovery from a Health At Every Size perspective, and is currently pursuing her Certified Eating Disorder Registered Dietitian (CEDRD) Certification.

The Mindful Dietitian with Vania Phitidis

June 18, 2018

Vania Phitidis on "de-experting" ourselves, building a compassionate mindfulness practice, and how diet culture tries to steal mindful eating...

Here Vania shares:

  • The up’s and down’s of social media and online connections.
  • Using mindfulness and objectivity to cultivate positive and diverse content.
  • Understanding the ‘Mere-Exposure Effect’ in the HAES/non-diet paradigm.
  • ‘Needing clothes that fit bodies, not bodies that fit clothes’; the lack of size diversity in fashion inhibiting opportunities for self-expression.
  • The humble and beautiful synergy of mindfulness and mindful eating.
  • How mindfulness supports the practitioner-client relationship and provides space for clients to be with their own experience.
  • Building mindfulness skills through a dedicated and consistent practice and the importance of being patient and compassionate during the process, for ourselves and our clients.
  • Using mindfulness to ‘de-expert’ and apply a ‘beginner’s mind’.
  • An introduction to RAIN, naturally moving, the need to belong and being good to ourselves.
  • Introducing our clients to mindfulness and how we can encourage the practice whilst being thoughtful to diet mentality ‘all-or-nothing’ thinking.
Tara Brach - RAIN meditation (The RAIN of self-compassion)

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The Mindful Dietitian with Anna Sweeney

June 4, 2018

Anna Sweeney on how Dietitians *really* feel about their bodies, promoting diversity in Dietetics and therapeutic diets - separating the shit from the sandwich.

Here Anna shares:

  • Her journey to becoming an eating disorders dietitian and involvement in Monte Nido treatment facilities.
  • The beauty of Boston; richness of HAES/non-diet practitioners.
  • The major findings of her recently conducted ‘Body Image and Eating Disorder Nutrition Professionals Survey’; an opportunity for self-reflection.
  • Asking the hard questions; how the survey results may impact our clients and how we can improve client-centred practice.
  • The important issues and consequences surrounding the lack of diversity in dietetics.
  • Her personal lived-experience with progressing multiple sclerosis (MS) and insight into applying a therapeutic diet.
  • On therapeutic diets; ‘We do significant harm if we are not exceptionally thoughtful when making recommendations about food choices and dietary changes that will impact our clients lives – in every single part of their existence”.
  • The importance of being curious with our clients, validating their concerns, instilling compassion and supporting autonomy when navigating therapeutic and/or restrictive diets.
  • Her recent project with @with_this_body - keep an eye out!


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More about Anna:

Anna Sweeney, MS, RD, LDN, CEDRD-S, is a non-diet, health at every size dietitian who specializes in the treat of eating disorders, disordered eating and body image concerns. She is the National Director of Nutrition Services for Monte Nido, an eating disorder treatment program with many locations across the United States. Anna is also the owner of Whole Life Nutrition Counseling, an outpatient nutrition therapy practice dedicated solely to the care of clients who are working through the process of healing their relationships with food and body. Anna is an active member of her local eating disorder treatment community and has spoken both locally and nationally on topics related to eating disorder treatment and recovery.

Anna is also a disabled woman who is working to bring all her parts to the work that she is so passionate about.


The Mindful Dietitian with Paige Smathers

May 24, 2018

Paige Smathers, RD on the intersection of addictions, eating disorders and body image, the cultural epidemic of fat phobia & stepping into your true value as a professional!

Here Paige shares:

  • Her experience working in diverse fields as a Registered Dietitian and Nutritionist.
  • Her involvement in the addiction recovery space and how she incorporated research, her practice and personal experiences to develop the fundamental ‘Substance Use Disorders’ Curriculum.
  • The intersection between addictions and body image, eating disorders and disordered eating.
  • The cultural epidemic of fat phobia and weight bias and how this impacts socially conscious groups.
  • Raising awareness of eating disorder and disordered eating behaviours, attitudes and language; how to approach these conversations with clients and colleagues in order to seek neutrality through bridging the gap.
  • The importance of providing space for compassion.
  • How she teaches and acknowledges ‘change’ within her lessons.
  • Mindfulness in the addictions field through learning to care for ourselves and sitting with pain.
  • Acknowledging your worth as a professional in this paradigm.


More about Paige:

Paige Smathers is a Registered Dietitian and Nutritionist from Salt Lake City, Utah with incredible diversity in her professional work.  She provides nutritional therapy for individuals in eating disorder recovery and for those struggling with chronic dieting within her private practice, Positive Nutrition. She also teaches multiple online courses and provides lessons to individuals within substance use treatment/recovery facilities in Utah. Paige has a wealth of knowledge in this area which has been acknowledgement through her development of the Positive Nutrition Substance Use Disorders Curriculum. In addition, Paige is a consultant, presenter and the host of the ‘Nutrition Matters’ podcast. On her spare days, you’ll find Paige partaking in many of the exciting mountain and outdoor activities on offer in this beautiful part of the world.

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The Mindful Dietitian with Dr Lilia Graue

May 11, 2018

Dr Lilia Graue, MD, LMFT from Mexico City on performative health, being with our own experiences and "reclaiming the white coat" 

How Lilia first came to Mindful Eating through yoga and meditation
Her journey through medical school
Becoming more open and explicit with mindfulness
The "inside-out" process and becoming more familiar with our own mind and body
​Cultivating attunement allows us to be with our clients from a place of genuine love
Kindness and compassion in action, the common human experience
Showing up in ways which honour the human experience and acknowledge that we have so many shared experiences
The ways our training discourages us to "be with" our clients.
What's our common aim? To ease suffering and to heal.
The important of "unlearning"
How our sense of embodiment gets beaten out of us by diet culture, how our natural way of showing up gets lost
What is "radical?" = "at the root"
What is "performative health" vs "embodiment"
Performative health robs us of authentic connection - with ourselves, and with others.
We're all part of the system which tells us to look, act, talk and be a certain way.
​There's a very warped sense of belonging in replicating the patterns we are taught are normative in our professions a opposed to being our unique and rebellious selves
Reclaiming "the white coat"



Lilia Graue, MD, LMFT, is an eating disorders specialist and clinical supervisor; mindfulness, compassion and mindful eating instructor; certified therapeutic and restorative yoga teacher; death doula; bereavement counselor; Certified Body Trust® Provider; and Healthy Boundaries for Kind People Certified Coach and Facilitator.  Having completed postgraduate training in medical family therapy and body psychotherapy, and with 18 years of clinical experience, she is intimately familiar with bodies and minds and our healing processes, and how we relate to, nourish and take care of ourselves and our bodies in ways that bring us closer to wholeness, radical presence, fierce embodiment and joy.

Lilia practices at the intersection of different healing modalities, centering lived experience and the body as a source of knowing, with a depth and scope very few providers can offer. Her own life experiences with developmental and complex trauma, depression, anxiety, navigating the daily challenges of living with chronic pain, and a healing journey that has involved extensive psychotherapy, as well as mind-body practices, have shaped the way she approaches her suffering and that of others. She considers it her privilege, purpose and deepest source of fulfillment to be able to witness and support others in their own healing path.
Lilia loves working with providers who are navigating the challenges of advocating bravely for body liberation, embodiment and freedom from performative health, and who wish to cultivate and honor boundaries that allow for their self care and replenishing empathy and compassion. 

Her practice is rooted in intersectional feminism. It is trauma informed, weight inclusive and trans inclusive, and grounded in the principles of Body Respect, Body Trust® and Health at Every Size® (HAES®). She is Mexican and provides services in both English and Spanish.
Lilia is an avid amateur cook, baker, and foodie. She and her partner share their home with their beloved cats, Thomas and Ziggy.


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The Mindful Dietitian with Dawn Clifford

April 9, 2018

Dr Dawn Clifford on transforming Dietetic practice through the power of kindness, Motivational Interviewing & find your voice.

Thanks for joining me today to hear from the very wise and multi-talented Dawn Clifford, co-author of "Motivational Interviewing for Nutrition & Fitness Professionals"

Here Dawn shares:

  • Discovering her passion for nutrition and dietetics in high school as a competitive swimmer.
  • Being captivated by the psychology of health behaviour change during her studies and seeing her strengths in nutrition counselling and teaching.
  • Her experience in the NA university recreation centre and as an Outpatient Dietitian, leading to HAES and the pursuit for more knowledge on how to best be with clients.
  • More about her book; Motivational Interviewing in Nutrition and Fitness, co-written with Laura Curtis, MS, RD.
  • Motivational Interviewing learning strategies; how you can begin even if it doesn’t yet resonate and why it is effective and important as a therapeutic model in this paradigm.
  • As a HAES practitioner, how you can approach different philosophies collegially and with clients; “it is a countercultural message – you can expect some resistance!”
  • Navigating mixed messages in academia; for teachers and students.
  • Tips on how to approach fatigue working in the HAES/non-diet paradigm;
    • One important tip being the use of Motivational Interviewing and the two key questions for your clients.
  • Her new project – watch this space!


Dawn Clifford, PhD, RD. Dawn is an Associate Professor at Northern Arizona University and is the co-author of Motivational Interviewing in Nutrition and Fitness. She teaches nutrition education and counselling, and has experience implementing and directing university-based health coaching programs. Dawn conducts research and is an accomplished speaker in the areas of motivational interviewing and non-diet approaches to health and wellness. In addition, she has published several research articles in the Journal of Nutrition Education and Behaviour and written curriculum for Today’s Dietitian and Nutrition Dimensions.


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The Mindful Dietitian with Edie Shreckengast

March 15, 2018

Edie Shreckengast on the complexities and dilemmas of working with athletes, supporting nourishment and dealing with diet culture in settings where there are competing demands, and how she puts it all together!

Please help me welcome the  inspiring Edie (Edith) Nault from Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, USA. Edie is a Registered Dietitian/Nutritionist specialising in the area of Sports and Performance. Using her own experience as a runner and triathlete, Edie is able to connect with her clients in supporting nourishment from a performance perspective but also by discouraging the thin ideal and food restriction by promoting a healing relationship with food and body and sustainable behaviours which encourages eating and activity for enjoyment and pleasure.

Here Edie shares:


  • Her experience as a runner and triathlete and how this lead to an interest in nutrition and becoming a Sports Dietitian.
  • The natural transition to finding healing in her relationship with food and body and the HAES/non-diet approach.
  • The pressures encountered by female athletes from her personal lived experienced and client work.  
  • The athletics settings; a culture within a culture, the underground diet mentality, expectations and the identity crisis.   
  • Using social media to understand client influencers and as a way to connect.
  • Self-comparison and the blame towards body composition for low performance rather than considering under-fuelling.
  • Sports science and research; the harmful message that “anything that is new; works”
  • Working with athletes at different life stages, considering social pressures, culture backgrounds and resources.
  • Overall the use of HAES/Non-diet principles in sports nutrition and how to start.


  • Working with athletes in weight classes and with body composition demands and the use of the ‘car’ analogy.  


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The Mindful Dietitian with Katherine Zavodni

February 26, 2018

Katherine Zavodni, MPH, RDN, CD, on finding creative ways to develop age-appropriate food and nutrition messaging for children and families, finding her niche the non-conventional way and the importance of client validation.


Here Katherine shares:


  • Her journey to dietetics and early experiences with eating disorders and disordered eating.
  • Finding her niche (non-diet/HAES) and a supportive practice after gaining her first role and feeling uncomfortable practicing from an incompatible paradigm.
  • Mixed-messages in the standard paradigm (weight-centred) and how the non-diet/HAES approach aligned with personal and professional values.
  • Importance of validating a client’s experience and how the non-diet approach “provides an alternative for clients to partner with their bodies instead of constantly trying to battle their bodies”.
  • Understanding the human experience; the behavioural similarities between those diagnosed with an eating disorder and those non-diagnosed and need for strengthened training programmes.


  • Importance of broadening eating disorders/disorder eating screening and assessment perspectives.
  • Working with Anna Lutz, colleague, mentor and friend, to develop workshops for BEDA and NEDA on ‘Age Appropriate Nutrition Education’ based on child development and developmentally appropriate principles.
  • Current nutrition education programs at schools; their abstract and flawed design and suggestions for improvements.
  • Our cultures concern for ‘the health/moral crisis’, weight bias and fat phobia and how it moves us away from holistic health.
  • Her new exciting project – watch this space!


About Katherine:

Katherine is a registered dietitian/nutritionist from Salt Lake City, Utah who provides nutrition therapy for eating disorders, intuitive eating, chronic dieting, weight concerns, and family and childhood feeding dynamics. Her therapeutic approach adopts non-diet principles consistent with the Intuitive Eating and HAES® models. Katherine, along with her friend and colleague Anna Lutz, developed and facilitated workshops on ‘Age Appropriate Nutrition Education’ based on child development and developmentally appropriate principles for the Binge Eating Disorder Association (BEDA) and National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA) conferences last year (2017). These incredible workshops were well-received by professionals globally and are intended to be developed into curriculum by the end of 2018.


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The Mindful Dietitian with Lindsay Stenovec

February 14, 2018

Lindsay Stenovec on supporting expecting and new mothers to push back on diet culture, connect with their bodies during some of the most vulnerable times and fostering a culture of connection and support.

Introducing the wonderful and passionate Lindsay Stenovec MS, RD, CEDRD, CLEC of Sunny San Diego, This is a very special interview as Lindsay joins us today 39 weeks pregnant!
(postscript - little James was born a week after we recorded, welcome to the world, little man!)

As we are aware, there are times when women in particular are more vulnerable to falling prey to diet culture messages and arguably, one of the most troubling times is around pregnancy, and parenting. We want to acknowledge that there are many ways to be a parent, including not have the experience of pregnancy, and here Lindsay speaks so compassionately about the variety of experiences which can influence the way we see our bodies during this important time of life.

Lindsay also shares:

  • More about her specialised/unique area of work; supporting and empowering pregnant women and mothers.
  • How the motherhood experience impacts body image and food choices.
  • Her personal struggles during pregnancy; noticing the gap in the peri-natal community and recognising the need/opportunity to bridge it.
  • ‘Taking your experiences with you’; how Lindsay’s work experiences and opportunities impacted her direction and lead her to this specialised work.
  • Healing; the importance of client validation, self-care and knowing they are not alone.
  • The birth of The Nurtured Mama and community
  • How dietitians and eating disorder specialists can support their clients in navigating pregnancy, planning and motherhood;
    • Supporting client to become self-advocates and find the right provider
    • Developing a post-partum plan
    • Support in navigating through the messengers
    • Impact of mindfulness
  • Connecting, referring your clients for community support and top podcast recommendations!

More about Lindsay:

Lindsay is a non-diet dietitian, intuitive eating counsellor and eating disorder specialist and the founder of Nutrition Instincts® and The Nurtured Mama Club. Nurtured Mama is a website and community designed to educate, support and empower expecting mothers/mothers on non-diet nutritional wellness, body image, acceptance and self-love. Lindsay established The Nurtured Mama through noticing the significant gaps in resources for support after birth through her own lived-experience with postpartum depression and anxiety. Lindsay facilitates one-on-one consultations, online programmes, ED recovery support groups and the Nurtured Mama podcast and community. Lindsay’s mission is to the help women and mothers reduce stress and guilt around food and movement by restoring their trust in their bodies, taking weight obsession out of the equation and re-defining health and self-care so that each woman, mother & family can thrive

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