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Navigating language & Stepping Up with Amee Severson

Navigating language & Stepping Up with Amee Severson

September 18, 2020

Amee Severson on Trauma Informed care and raising Intuitive Eaters

In this episode, Amee makes a very exciting announcement (which might just involve a book and a partnership with the amazing Sumner Brooks!!), how she found her voice (which includes crossing paths with body positive leading advocate; Lindo Bacon), every dietitians responsibility when working with human beings, more on the weaponizing of words, how dietitians are so much more than ‘food managers’, what trauma informed care really is and how to have thoughtful and empathic conversations with fat / larger bodied clients and self-care on social media.

 

Here Fi and Amee speak about:

  • What Amee has been up to; from working online at home to finishing her final semester of grad school and becoming a body trust provider.

  • Amee’s new and exciting project with Sumner Brooks and how it evolved; YES, you heard right! It’s an intuitive eating book for kids (geared towards parents and caregivers)! 

  • How Amee and Sumner are working to ensure the book is inclusive, HAES aligned and informed by social justice. 

  • Amee’s personal growth and evolution; how she found her place and how she found her voice – and it includes an informative car ride with the inspiring Lindo Bacon!

  • Every dietitian’s responsibility when working with human beings. 

  • The weaponizing of words and how the words we use really, really matter!

  • Understanding how our role is so much more than ‘food managers’ and ‘just listening’ to clients.

  • The essential need for ongoing unlearning and relearning. 

  • Trauma-informed care; what it really means and what it isn’t.   

  • How smaller bodied dietitians can be alongside, and have truly thoughtful and empathic conversations with fat / larger bodied clients.

  • Self-care on socials; Amee shares how she cares for herself whilst communicating on social media and how you can too!

 

As mentioned in the podcast:

Sumner Brooks, MPH, RD, LD – you can also hear Fi and Sumner chat on Ep. 6 of The Mindful Dietitian podcast, find it here!

Ellyn Satter Institute – Division of Responsibility 

Lindo Bacon, PhD, Author, Researcher and Advocate

 

More about Amee:

Amee is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist (RDN) in private practice in Bellingham, Washington and has also worked with students at Western Washington University. Amee’s work with individuals focuses on repairing relationships with food and body for all of her clients. She found this work after recovering from an eating disorder herself. She holds a Bachelor's degree in Food and Nutrition from Montana State University, is completing her Master’s of Professional Practice from Iowa State University. She is a dietitian registered in the State of Washington, and has received training under the Original Intuitive Eating Pro’s Elyse Resch and Evelyn Tribole. She is undergoing  certification as a Body Trust Provider. Amee has written articles for Healthline, Greatist, and the Scientific American blog.

Embodiment and Justice with Lisa Pearl

Embodiment and Justice with Lisa Pearl

August 21, 2020

Lisa Pearl on deeply and critically examining the ways in which we consider body image and embodiment.

 

In this episode, Lisa shares her well-established career trajectory and motive for staying in this work for over 30 years, she discusses how body image, embodiment and ED / body image treatment has changed over time, why social justice for body liberation is essential – now more than ever, she shares a different way we can comprehend embodiment, the challenges and barriers to experiencing our authentic self / obtaining authentic spaces; especially for those in minority groups, why we need diversity in dietetics and how we can make it happen, why we must amplify voices and people of colour today and consistently, and the direction she would like to see the future of dietetics head.    

Here Fi and Lisa speak about:

  • First meeting at Fi & Marci’s body image workshop almost 3 years ago and Fi’s initial shock of seeing Lisa’s name on the attendance list as an esteemed colleague! 
  • Lisa’s long-standing career as an eating disorder specialist; Lisa shares her core motive for staying in this work for so long.
  • Lisa’s observations of how body image and body embodiment has evolved and matured over time, to include her experience;
    • Fighting against the goliaths of the 80’s diet industry. 
    • First hearing about and connecting with NAAFA: the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, who introduced her to the embodiment work of HAES. 
    • And the great opportunities and positive impact brought about from a presentation she gave during her master’s education.
  • ED and body image treatment; the advancements, declines and regressions.
  • Social justice and body liberation; 
    • Embodiment; Lisa provides us with a new way in which we can truly understand embodiment.
    • The challenges and barriers of experiencing our authentic selves and spaces, particularly for those in minority groups. 
    • The importance of acknowledging our privilege and the essential skills that providers in this field need.
    • Why we must have more diversity to foster safe spaces for minority groups and how we can start making it happen.
    • Amplifying people and voices of colour – why we must do it NOW and consistently.
  • Lisa’s vision for the future of dietetics, particularly the structure and content of dietetic education and her wish for all dietitians.

As mentioned in the podcast:

About Lisa:

Lisa Pearl is a licensed clinical nutritionist and eating disorder specialist.  She is the founder of the Counseling and Nutrition Center 360, LLC. She is also the co-founder of the first graduate certificate and internship program at Simmons University for the study of eating disorders. In addition to teaching at Simmons, Lisa maintains her clinical practice, provides group and individual supervision for other clinicians, and teaches a mindful movement practice. 

 

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Anti Diet as Revolutionary Action with Christy Harrison

Anti Diet as Revolutionary Action with Christy Harrison

July 25, 2020

Dismantling Diet Culture and Oppressive Systems with Christy Harrison, author of Anti Diet and host of Food Psych Podcast.

 

In this episode, Christy shares the unexpected ways her book Anti Diet (Published 2019) have become relevant, how diet culture stops us from participating in life and in revolutions, why and how we can move away from the binary and binary thinking, the importance of understanding how we orient in the world, the inner process of doing the work, using our Interoceptive Awareness as our guide when doing anti-oppression work, what we need to think about before extending anti-diet messaging to other areas of oppression and a lesson in Cultural Appropriation (sign up to the full course by Monique Melton here!)

 

More about what Fi and Christy speak about:

    • How Christy was one of Fi’s very first guests on The Mindful Dietitian Podcast and how she is someone she looks too and learns from consistently in this space. 
    • What Christy has been up to; focussing on social justice angles and roots of diet culture and getting her book deal and writing and publishing Anti-Diet. 
    • COVID-19 and the current anti-racism movement in America; how unexpected aspects of the Anti-Diet book have become relevant.
  • The definition of diet culture and how diet culture takes us away from our purpose and disconnects us from what is going on in the larger world.
  • Moving away from the binary and binary thinking and dismantling systems of oppression and injustice through looking for the third option.
  • How we orient in the world, towards ourselves and towards others and how this can translate across different communities.
  • The inner process of doing the work; learning, dismantling, wrestling and letting go and what we need to consider and remind ourselves whilst doing the unseen work.
  • Using interoceptive awareness as a guide in anti-diet, anti-racism and anti-oppression work.
  • For people who are already involved and practising anti-diet messaging, the work that needs to be done before thinking about and extending these messages out to other areas of oppression.   
  • A lesson on Cultural Appropriation (part of Monique Melton’s course, find more information here) and why white folks MUST work on appreciation without appropriation.

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Christy: 

 

Christy Harrison, MPH, RD, CDN is an anti-diet registered dietitian nutritionist, certified intuitive eating counselor, and author of the book Anti-Diet: Reclaim Your Time, Money, Well-Being, and Happiness Through Intuitive Eating (Little, Brown Spark 2019). She offers online courses and private intuitive eating coaching to help people all over the world make peace with food and their bodies. Since 2013 Christy has hosted Food Psych, a weekly podcast exploring people’s relationships with food and paths to body liberation. It is now one of Apple’s top 100 health podcasts, reaching tens of thousands of listeners worldwide each week. 

 

Christy began her career in 2003 as a journalist covering food, nutrition, and health, and she’s written for publications including The New York Times, SELF, BuzzFeedWIRED, Refinery29Gourmet, SlateThe Food Network, and many others. Learn more about Christy and her work at christyharrison.com.

 

 

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Smashing stereotypes & Valuing Lived Experience with Cristel Moubarak

Smashing stereotypes & Valuing Lived Experience with Cristel Moubarak

June 29, 2020

 

 

In this episode, Cristel shares her lived experience and how it lead her onto the path to becoming a dietitian, how she found healing through therapy, the core elements that supported her to find food and body peace, how she navigated weight stigma within her family dynamic, whether you should be sharing your lived experience as a health care professional and how it can be done professionally so to support and understand your client, how she found her place within dietetics (as an entrepreneurial superstar!) and how you can too through accepting that you are valuable and needed in this profession - just as you are!

Here Fi and Cristel speak about:

  • How they came to be connected, what it's like working in Canada from a weight inclusive framework and Cristel’s dream for dietitians.

  • Cristel’s work within her business; NutriFoodie, her work with clients and in education.

  • Lived experience, the path to dietetics and finding her ‘why’; Cristel shares her experience with disordered eating, dieting, weight stigma and healing through therapy.

  • The 3 core elements that contributed to Cristel finding food and body peace.

  • Navigating weight stigma within the family dynamic.

  • Sharing your lived experience in health care / dietetic care;

    • Why your lived experience matters (and doesn’t make you less professional!) and how sharing it can help you connect with and understand your client.

    • Ways in which you may be projecting your story and how you can avoid it. 

    • How to side-step the power struggle between yourself and your client, along with a beautiful ‘planting’ metaphor to support self-reflection.

  • Being a powerhouse in the entrepreneurial space; how Cristel found her place

 

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Cristel:

Cristel is NutriFoodie's dietitian & founder. She is passionate about helping people give up chronic dieting & weight cycling to cultivate a positive and peaceful relationship with their bodies and food through group & one-on-one nutrition counseling & food coaching.

Cristel believes our relationship (with one another, community, food, and body) rises above number counting and idealistic (and unrealistic) expectations around food, eating and body image or size. We all deserve to respect this body we're in, and we all have the right to eat and enjoy food, too.

All services are offered virtually in British Columbia, Canada. 

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Fat Positive Fertility with Nicola Salmon

Fat Positive Fertility with Nicola Salmon

June 14, 2020

Nicola Salmon on advocacy, fat positive healthcare & engaging in important conversations.

In this episode, Nicola shares her journey to becoming a fat positive advocate and coach including her experience with PCOS, dieting, PTSD, conceiving naturally and finding the HAES & IE movement, what it was like training as an acupuncturist and naturopath, the obstacles and difficulties she faced being the first in the fat fertility space and her motivation to continue, why we need to reduce individual labour in healthcare and start conversations for our clients, what dietitians need to know when working with people in larger bodies asking for fertility support / treatment and how we can start helpful and thoughtful conversations if they are seeking weight loss.

Here Fi and Nicola speak about:

 

  • Nicola’s journey to becoming a fat positive fertility coach and advocate;
  • Her lived experience with PCOS and experiencing diet cultures firm grasp.
  • A traumatic event which lead her to train as an acupuncturist and specialise in fertility acupuncture. 
  • Experiencing a natural conception in a larger body and finding HAES / IE / non-diet. 
  • Nicola’s experience as a student training in acupuncture and naturopathy, the skills she obtained and how it introduced new ideas around food and body. 
  • Being the first in the fat fertility space; Nicola’s motivation to do this work and her ability to push through the obstacles and difficulties for her clients.  
  • Individual labour in the healthcare systems; its burdening impacts and why we need to start conversations with other health care professionals and specialists for our clients.
  • What dietitians need to know when working with people asking for fertility support / treatment, especially for those in larger bodies.
  • The most helpful and do-no-harm approach to starting a conversation with a larger bodied client who is seeking weight loss for fertility.
  • More about Nicola’s book ‘Fat & Fertile’ and how you can get in touch!

 

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Nicola: 

Nicola is a fat-positive and feminist fertility coach and author of “Fat and Fertile”.  She advocates for change in how fat people are treated whilst accessing help with their fertility. Nicola supports fat people who want to get pregnant  using her unique FAT+ve fertility framework to find their own version of health without diets, advocate for their bodies, relearn how to trust their body and believe in their ability to get pregnant in their current body.

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Getting (very) Real with Heather Caplan

Getting (very) Real with Heather Caplan

May 29, 2020

 Heather Caplan on adjusting expectations in times of uncertainty & important messages for her past self.

 

In this episode, Heather shares more about her RD Real Talk podcast, her experience running a private practice through maternity leave and motherhood and how these lessons may convey during COVID-19, more about starting WIND; the Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics movement, the words of wisdom she would offer herself 3-5 years ago, how the weight inclusive space supports self-reflection, why we need to acknowledge the work that has come before us and how The Iceberg Analogy aligns within this community.  

Here Fi and Heather speak about:

  • Heather’s podcast; RD Real Talk, and how it has evolved over time. 
  • Navigating maternity leave and motherhood whilst running a private practice, and how we can take on or consider some of these aspects during COVID-19. 
  • The Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) movement;
    • What it is and how it came to fruition. 
    • The original intention for WIND and how the idea has evolved to what it is today.
  • The words, lessons and advice Heather would offer herself 3 or 5 years ago;
    • and how this insight can support health practitioners who are currently studying and/or working in weight centric spaces or those who might be new to the HAES / non-diet / weight inclusive paradigm.  
  • How being a part of this community can open us up for self-reflection and help us to investigate social conditioning and personal patterns which can get in the way.
  • The importance of acknowledging the decades of work that has come before us. 
  • Using the Iceberg Analogy within the HAES / weight inclusive community to understand visibility, the need for ongoing learning (and unlearning), the power of a beginners mind and so much more.  

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Heather: 

 

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Defusing Shame & Blame with Nikki Estep

Defusing Shame & Blame with Nikki Estep

May 14, 2020

Nikki Estep on how Emotion Focussed Family Therapy (EFFT) provides a powerful modality for defusing shame and blame, and promoting food and body healing in Eating Disorder Treatment.

In this episode, Nikki shares how she began working in this space and her experience moving to private practice, she introduces us to Emotion Focused Family Therapy (EFFT) as a therapeutic approach for dietitians in eating disorder treatment; she walks us through the EFFT modules, demonstrates how the model addresses self-blame, shame and avoidance and shows us how it may sound in practice, she shares how EFFT has the ability to address clinician blocks and what she has learnt about herself through practicing this family inclusive approach. 

Here Fi and Nikki speak about:

  • How Nikki began working with adolescents in the eating disorder treatment space and her evolution into private practice. 
  • An introduction to EFFT; Emotion Focused Family Therapy:
    • How Nikki first heard about it as a therapeutic approach,
    • What the approach aims to do,
    • How the model provides a shift in ED treatment.
    • What EFFT sounds like in practice and how it activates the limbic system. 
    • The EFFT modules; Nikki walks us through them and explains how Janet Treasure’s animal models are incorporated.
    • Nikki also demonstrates how EFFT addresses self-blame, shame and avoidance for the young person / client, for the parents and within the family system.
    • Clinician blocks; how the model provides an opportunity to address blocks for clinicians, which can then be taken to supervision. 
  • What Nikki has learnt about herself and her work with others through using EFFT as a therapeutic approach in dietetics.

 

 

As mentioned in the podcast:

Resource: The Why of Parental and Caregiver Involvement in the Treatment of Mental Health Issues - EFFT

 

About Nikki:

 

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Weight Inclusive Cancer Care with Tamar Rothenberg

Weight Inclusive Cancer Care with Tamar Rothenberg

May 4, 2020

From Surviving to Thriving; Body Inclusive Cancer Care with Tamar Rothenberg

 

Tamar shares how she connects, collaborates and supports her local dietetic community in LA, becoming an oncology specialist and working with thrivers, why this work is so important to her, mixed messages and weight stigma in the oncology space, how dietitians can help navigate intersecting ideas and address their clients fears around food, how radical acceptance and body trust can support thrivers long-term and how we can work to ensure weight inclusive care in oncology spaces.

Here Fi and Tamar speak about:

 

  • Living in LA; collaborating and connecting with her local dietetic community and how they support each other.  

 

  • How Tamar became an oncology specialist (oncology nutrition), her work with thrivers and why this work means so much to her.
  • The mixed messages encountered in the oncology space and how they are being interpreted by people in treatment / post-treatment.
  • Weight stigma, from experience and observation, at screening / pre-treatment, in active treatment and post-treatment. 
  • Navigating the intersecting idea that “I should be grateful that there is now no evidence of cancer” BUT “I feel angry / pissed AND I don’t feel well or at home in my body”.
  • How dietitians can address client fears around food in helpful ways when going through treatment / post-treatment and the power of validation and acknowledgement in this space.
  • How different worlds can collide in healing.
  • Why radical acceptance, body connection and body trust can support thrivers long-term.
  • The importance of understanding and accepting that what might be helpful for one client, may not be helpful for another. 
  • The most important core messages we need to share with our colleagues to ensure weight inclusive care in oncology spaces.

As mentioned in the podcast:

  • Women Rowing North: Navigating Life’s Currents and Flourishing As We Age by Mary Pipher

More about Tamar: 

Tamar Rothenberg, MS, RDN, specializes in nutrition for breast cancer thrivers in her private practice in Los Angeles. She has a Certificate of Training in Vegetarian Nutrition. She cuts through confusing nutrition information and uses intuitive eating, body trust, and plant foods to get your power back. She’s an adjunct professor of nutrition at Touro College and University. Most recently, she co-authored the study, Coping with Cancer in the Kitchen.

 

De-Experting, Unlearning & Weight Inclusive Nutrition in Practice with Laura Thomas

De-Experting, Unlearning & Weight Inclusive Nutrition in Practice with Laura Thomas

April 18, 2020

Laura Thomas on the process of de-experting, unlearning and weight inclusive MNT for Dietitians and Nutritionists

 

In this episode, Laura shares about her book; Just Eat It, to include getting the idea off the ground, the writing and publishing processes and evolving since publication, also the frameworks and principles that dietitians and nutritionists may find difficult when first moving to the non-diet / HAES & IE paradigm from the traditional weight-centric models and how they can overcome them and developing Weight-Inclusive guides for health professionals and clients; more about them and where you can find them.

Here Fi and Laura discuss:

 

  • Flipping the tables on Laura for a round of "Quick-Fire Action" (a fun, introductory activity which Laura uses to begin her Don’t Salt My Game Podcast)
  • Laura’s Book, Just Eat It;
  • How the book came to be written.
  • The writing and publishing process.
  • And changing and evolving as a health professional and human-being over time.

 

  • What dietitians and nutritionists may find difficult when first starting to adopt non-diet / HAES / intuitive eating frameworks and principles and practices that can help; 

    • The importance of de-experting and unlearning and using person-centred care to flick the ‘fixing’ instinct and uncover our client’s values.
    • Slowing down the intuitive eating principles and starting where it makes sense for the client. 
    • Why it might be helpful to establish a tool kit of coping skills for clients before commencing IE and where acceptance and commitment therapy fits in the process.
  • Weight-Inclusive Guides for dietitians, nutritionists and clients produced by the London Centre for Intuitive Eating; their aim, putting them into practice and where you can find them. 

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Laura:

Laura established LCIE in 2017 to help support clients who have a difficult relationship with food and their body. She has a passion for delivering inclusive, trauma informed, and person-centred care for all bodies. She draws upon different therapeutic and counselling skills to support her clients in their recovery from disordered eating, chronic dieting, and body dissatisfaction. She also incorporates different health care frameworks into her work, such as Health and Every Size Ⓡ, Intuitive Eating, and Body Image Healing. Much of her work focusses on advocacy and reducing weight-based discrimination within the nutrition profession. Laura takes a collaborative approach to working with clients, recognising that they are the experts of their own bodies and experiences. Her advice and recommendations are not didactic, rather she helps guide and support clients to reconnect with their bodies. 

In January 2019, Laura published her 1st book with Bluebird Books: Just Eat It: How Intuitive Eating Can Help You Get Your Shit Together Around Food.

 

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Fierce, Fat and Saving Lives with Victoria Welsby

Fierce, Fat and Saving Lives with Victoria Welsby

April 1, 2020

Victoria Welsby on how we can be better humans and health professionals by interrogating our own biases & fat phobia. Buckle in for the real talk!

 

Victoria shares why the word fat has been reclaimed in the body positive and fat positive communities, using the word fat; who gets too, when it might be used and its impact, how we can be better humans and health professionals by removing certain words from our vocabulary, ways we can call in other health professionals, interrogating our own biases and avoiding the shame spiral, seeking support as a professional / activist in the non-diet, body positive / fat positive spaces, Victoria’s book ‘Fierce Fatty’ and other must read books for 2020 and so much more!

Here Fi and Victoria speak about:

    • Launching onto the scene in a big way and sharing insight into her life as a guest on the Chrissy Harrison Food Psych Podcast – an important listen, find it here!
    • Reclamation of the word fat;
      • Why the body positive and fat positive communities have reclaimed it.
      • Who gets to use it, when it might be used and its life-changing-life-saving impact.
    • The ‘o’ words NO health professional (or anyone) should use and why removing these words from your vocabulary (and brain) is incredible!
    • Ways we can call-in health professionals that are still using the ‘o’ words i.e. do you want to be on the right side of history??
    • Why making the effort to interrogate our own bias really matters and why we need to avoid getting caught in the shame spiral.

 

  • Seeking support as a feminist / doctor / dietitian / health professional / fat activist / body positive activist in this paradigm. 
  • What we can look out for as signals that we need to do some work as non-diet dietitians and why you should claim the ‘Fat Positive and Anti-Diet Dietitian’ title.
  • Must read books for 2020, which of course includes Victoria’s new book (YES!!) and why she evolved to become the Fierce Fatty (from BAMPOWLIFE).

 

As mentioned in the podcast:

More about Victoria: Fi to input.

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